Don't try and make the victims of your ganks look like bad people. You've just destroyed something they may have spent hours working for, in a few seconds. What do you expect is going to happen? Not everyone can shrug off something like that. Hell you killing them may even mean they cannot buy the PLEX to continue playing for another month, driving subs away from the game and making our community smaller.

Good! We agree.


Mining isn't playing the game wrong. No one has ever claimed otherwise.

Mining for PLEX is playing the game wrong. Mining in a failfit, overly expensive T2 mining ship without trying to defend it is playing it wrong. Autopiloting with an expensive cargo is playing the game wrong.

These aren't opinions, they are facts. None of the above scenarios are beneficial to the player partaking in them. They can do the exact same job more efficently and/or more safely by not being greedy, being aware of the game's mechanics and paying attention to their surroundings.

couldnt be bothered to read 3 pages of posts. but joining code shouldnt be this dramatic.

3 pages? im tired of this post being at the top of C&P.

can we talk more about crime. and crime. and dammit more crime.

good job, switching to code and all, i love them too.

but this is absurd, 3 pages?!

OK, I'll expand on the difference between an opinionated wrong and a factual wrong.

If I were to start putting my jeans on back-to-front, I think it's fair to say that most people would say I was doing it wrong.

Someone people would look at them while I was walking around and say they look stupid like that. That's an opinionated wrong. Most would agree that they're right, but it's still a matter of opinion.

Now, if I were to complain that my new fashion choice was uncomfortable, that putting them on and doing them up took too long and was too difficult, then I'm factually wrong because I'm simply not using the clothing as intended or suboptimally. Someone could point out to me that the fly & button should be facing the front, making my life much easier; this would be helpful advice to help me with my mistake.

The player that mines for PLEX, is going through a 40 hour process to pay for his account, not including additional mining required for spending money. Complaining that it takes too long would indicate he needs a higher pad in-game profession or to spend a little time out of game getting paid real cash in order to pay for his account; even a paper round will easily cover subscription costs and a PLEX to cash in each month.

If it takes days or weeks to pay for his ship, then compains it got blown up, his profession is too poorly paid or he chose to fly a ship that was far too expensive for him.

If a player doesn't pay attention to the game, fails to avoid an easily avoidable loss and complains about it; you guessed it, he should've paid more attention.

These are the typical positions that gank victims find themselves in. They play the game suboptimally, then complain about an ineffeicient process or that the odds are somehow stacked against them, when they just need to educate themselves and/or adapt.